‘Better Call Saul’ Boss Peter Gould Teases Lalo’s Next Move, Kim’s Future and ‘Surprising’ Final Episodes

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BetterCallSaul boss petergould on Walter White vs. Lalo Salamanca: 'I think Walter White’s great advantage is that Gustavo Fring underestimates him... I think Fring understands what he’s dealing with much better with Lalo.'

Howard Hamlin has just been murdered in Jimmy and Kim’s apartment, but “Better Call Saul” fans will have to wait six weeks to find out why his killer, Lalo Salamanca , was there in the first place.

It was a really tough choice to make because you don’t want to confuse people. But we have a guideline in general, which is that if the plan is going to work, then you don’t need to explain it. But if it’s going to go wrong, you do. I always think of “Back to the Future.” Doc Brown builds that elaborate model of Main Street and Hill Valley to explain what’s going to happen. If the plan worked perfectly, you wouldn’t need that long scene where he explains what’s going to happen.

The midseason finale ends with the biggest intersection of Jimmy’s two worlds so far. Why did you decide to bring Howard and Lalo together in this way? I think there are two reasons. First of all, Lalo has good reason to believe that Gus doesn’t know that he’s still alive. Lalo went to great lengths to create the legend that, in fact, he was assassinated. So as far as Lalo is concerned, he’s trying to stay a ghost. And hearing Hector’s phone is tapped tips Gus’ hand that he’s still protecting things against Lalo. The other side of it is that family comes first with the Salamancas.

Was any of Gus’ backstory that we see in “Better Call Saul” — including the safe house and his conflict with Lalo — conceived during the making of “Breaking Bad”? When we conceived of this season and when we outlined it, we didn’t know that there was going to be a break between the two halves. That came about because of the way production worked and some other factors. It really was not designed to be two separate halves, so I wouldn’t expect the story to kind of take a long breath and then restart, necessarily.

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