Brontez Purnell and Charlie Engman on branding, bottoms, and being objectified 🥵 🔗 :
CHARLIE ENGMAN: You told me your show was “an intervention on persona,” and then you told me this was jargon you learned from pretentious white people. Are you staging an intervention on your pretentious white persona?
BRONTEZ PURNELL: What a triggering fucking question. But don’t take it the wrong way, I kind of like being triggered these days? But anyway, my “pretentious white persona.”-So like, when a white person declares some shit like, it’s usually like, a liberatory moment, it’s always declared as an affirmative.
ENGMAN: Truth or fiction aside, you’ve put yourself squarely in the center of everything you make. In this era where everyone is urged to transform themselves—their identity, their aesthetics, their opinions, their experiences—into social or financial capital, do you consider yourself a brand? And if youPURNELL: Well, this is one of the things my show “Anti-Alter Ego” is deeply asking. What exactlybranding even? I think a lot of people haven’t thought this through.
ENGMAN: From my experience, you seem to enjoy being photographed. Do you? What do you get out of being photographed? More specifically, what do you get out of being objectified? PURNELL: Well, cameras are basically mirrors, and if you think about it they both are like, these magical objects. But to keep it simple, I think, in a really face-value kind of way, photos represent a sort of “truth”? The show deals with a lot of self-portraits with text intervention, because as a performer I’m always at the end of other people’s shutters but I have never really self-authored my own photos, or self-authored them in a way that felt like my truest self.
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