We dive into not only the ending of JohnWick4 with director Chad Stahelski, but also the very beginnings of the John Wick franchise:
John Wick is on the hunt for the High Table cutting a new path to take them down and earn his freedom in John Wick: Chapter 4. When a new enemy is sent by the High Table, the Marquis Vincent de Gramont, allies become targets and old friends become adversaries. John Wick's mission becomes more challenging and personal than ever as he races to destroy the people who are out for his blood.
First of all, we always thought there'd be just one, so we didn't think we'd have to sustain it. We were trying to be new filmmakers and just go, "F--k it, no exposition!" Now we're like, "Wow, I really wish maybe we kept a little exposition." We have to keep coming up with new ways to do it. The second one, I had more money and more time, so I wanted to do a rock opera. You have a big concert and Caracalla baths in Rome, and now you're exploring yourself. It was probably around the third film, where I had taken time to really understand that directing is a little different than I thought it was. I looked at Keanu and was like, "I gotta get really better at this. How do you do this? I gotta be better at storytelling. I gotta write this thing better.
Thank you for that insight. They just keep getting better and better. I'm a fan of John Wick, and I love the lore. What lore can they fans look forward to in John Wick: Chapter 4? You have someone you care about, and it's a choice. It's either, "I have to die to let him live, or live and let him die." How do I feel about both? But then you add in the next thing, "I'm living for myself." John has to make a choice. It's not about him and Caine, it's about Caine living for something more important than either of them. That's an interesting dilemma to figure out. That was not an easy thing on paper to go, "That makes sense.
I've been a part of projects that have done two films together at once and, [at least] for me, I don't know how to do it. Creatively, I don't know how to get my head around that. I think the greatest part is that, after each John Wick, I took two years off to go live and get better; to travel, to read more, and to get better. I don't know how to do a movie back-to-back and get better for the second one.
Chad Stahelski: So many people. So many! Keanu and I have a whole board of people we'd love to work with. If you told me Cillian Murphy was going to be in a John Wick movie, I'd be like, "Oh my God!" If you told me Jackie Chan or Jet Li, or Jason Statham? If you said Stallone was going to make a cameo! I'm a little bit old school, so the dream list is, "Clint Eastwood is going to make an appearance.
To make another just movie that had John Wick's footprint on it, I think, would be very fun. But I think Len is super creative, and to let him put his own authorship on what we've done is the way to do it. I think the right team is there; between the stunt team, Ana, the other cast that he's put together... Len and his team [is] the right way to go; to see a different perspective on what we do.
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