For today's confessional pop queens, Jack Antonoff is more than a producer: He's a confidant

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For today's pop drama queens, Jack Antonoff is more than a producer: He's their confessor

and albums by his trio, Red Hearse, and rapper Kevin Abstract — Antonoff, 35, has been nominated for producer of the year, non-classical. It was right here at Electric Lady that Antonoff produced the space-echo snare hits and reverby vocals of “Lover”'s dazzling title cut, with just Swift, Antonoff and engineer Laura Sisk in the room.

“I personally gravitate towards some level of cutting the s--- and saying it like it is,” he says of his own songwriting style. “I just love when I’m being spoken to in a very unafraid way. I push myself to do that, so it’s easy to push others to do that.” He describes writing songs for other people as “a bizarre concept.” He’s more likely to mention the Beatles, Bowie, Mitchell, Kate Bush or Fleetwood Mac than anything contemporary.

He felt just that way at the beginning of his work with Del Rey. In their first five hours of writing together, they finished two songs that would appear on the album: “Love Song” and the heartbreaking piano ballad “Hope Is a Dangerous Thing for a Woman Like Me to Have — but I Have It.” Much of the record was written with Antonoff and Del Rey sitting alone at the piano for hours recording onto their phones. “I would play stuff, and she would sing, and we’d talk about words,” Antonoff says.

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