'Listen brother, someday you and I will sit down and figure this industry out.' GeorgeClooney and MattDamon, in conversation ⬇️
George Clooney has defined and redefined charisma so many times in his 40-plus–year career that his name ought to be synonymous with it. From an early guest role as a fresh-faced handyman onto his collection of Oscar gold as both an actor and producer, and with multiple identities as a humanitarian, entertainer, and activist, the 60-year-old icon has proven that masculinity isn’t always toxic. So who better to direct an adaptation of, J.R.
, there was that moment that happens when something hits, where suddenly you get that stardust thrown on you and they go, “Okay, you’re going to get your opportunity.” You and Ben went in a little bit different directions. Ben did somekind of movies so he wasn’t given enough credit for his talent as an actor, and wasn’t given the kind of roles that he was capable of doing. He had a couple, but not many. And then he directed his way out of that problem and changed his career in a big way.
DAMON: There are many ways in which it is nothing like your life, but did you have your own “Uncle Charlie”? CLOONEY: “He can’t hold a job, that guy.” [Laughs] I remember when you came over, I’d just put a screening room in my house. What year do you think that was?CLOONEY: Yeah, because you were about to do that golf movie [DAMON: That’s exactly right. I was about to go do it, and I’d never played golf. And I remember, you modeled a swing for me. You were like, “It’s easy. You’ve just got to get a little rotation in your hips.” And I remember thinking, “God, I wish I could do that.
CLOONEY: I saw some website where they showed the careers of the biggest stars of all time, like Cary Grant. And it was all, like, 20 years. It’s not as long as you think. And you’re like, “Holy shit. It’s hard to keep working.” Some of the reason why you started writing was because you were trying to write yourself a part, right?CLOONEY: And for me it was that I didn’t want to worry about what some casting director thought of me when I was 50 or 60.film? [Laughs] It’s all I get asked.
DAMON: And something that you do as a director, and that Steven does, and that a lot of the people we’ve worked with do, is create so much momentum around the camera that you don’t want to be anywhere else.
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