John Williams is retiring after he finishes the score for the forthcoming Indiana Jones movie — right? Well, Steven Spielberg certainly thinks so. Or thought so. He was corrected on that notion at …
so. He was corrected on that notion at the very end of a 90-minute conversation between the two film giants Thursday night.and held at the Writers Guild Theater, moderator Jon Burlingame addressed the elephant that was gingerly lingering around the edges of the room: “A final question for each of you.
Spielberg said that he’d sought to enlist Williams for “The Sugarland Express” after developing an obsession with Williams’ scores for two Mark Rydell films, “The Reivers,” for which he “wore out” the soundtrack album, and “The Cowboys,” which then had no album, but some of which the budding filmmaker had still committed to memory.
“I temped the entire movie with the score from ‘Images,'” Spielberg admitted. “And that wasn’t ‘Jaws’ when we did that. It was a different movie. And you saw the movie with the ‘Images’ score and you said, ‘No, no, no, no. This isn’t a Robert Altman picture. This is a pirate film.'” “I think you probably could,” Williams replied, but added, “Don’t play the clarinet.” Spielberg explained: “I play clarinet in ‘Jaws’ because I play it so badly. There was a little high school band marching down the street. John said , ‘Well, you know, we usually do things to sweeten it, but we need you to sour this.’ We had a great first and he sounded too good. And I said to him, ‘You’ve gotta make it worse.’ So he handed the clarinet to Steven.
Talk turned to the present as a “Fabelmans” clip was shown in which Michelle Williams, playing a fictionalized version of Spielberg’s mom, does an impromptu dance in front of her family on a camping trip at night. Although it’s presumably silent in the real-life setting for the scene, Williams’ score was intended to evoke “a kind of music that can invoke or create a kind of dream state, where gravity is suspended and emotion is slowed down and we ruminate about our situation in the universe.
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