'It was like a cast of heroes, taking me in and pushing me into the album.'
It's kind of a sibling to"Stop Making This Hurt" — that's a little more petulant,"Stop making this hurt, say goodbye like you mean it." You're looking at someone with all their baggage, and you're like, drop it. It becomes un-petulant in the bridge, when I pose the question: If you take the sadness out of Saturday night, are you left with anything worth fighting for? That's when it becomes about me.
"How Dare You Want More" is such a sweeter song. First verse is me, second is my father, third is my mother. It's combing through how much shame comes into play with wanting more — not money or stuff, but wanting more from your life, wanting more of those desires that make you feel like you.
I don't wish I had more time for much. I work in a way where I work when I feel it, so I don't feel bogged down by my work. That’s why that question is always funny to me, because I don’t want for much time-wise. I get to do a lot of stuff, and I get to go to the beach in New Jersey, and hang out with my family.
I don't really talk much publicly, and then I'll make a record and I'll talk about it, and it becomes like a comb through a lot of the other stuff I've done too. You start to get this sense of the mythology around you versus the reality. Some things you hear are really recognizable — you're like"oh yeah, that's me!" — and some things I hear, I can understand why people might think that, but that doesn't really feel like me.It's not in a cynical way.
I wouldn't call it a mistake, but I think that to be a songwriter, you also have to be so vulnerable. But you also have to wear all this armor to block out all these opinions — especially if you have any success, all of a sudden everyone has an idea of where you should take it. It's only interesting wherewant to go. There's an inner voice that you've just got to stay so focused on.
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