Biden's connection to President Obama is often cited as a reason for his staying power. Does that underrate his actual skills as a retail politician?
Still doing well, despite many predictions. Photo: Drew Angerer/Getty Images Ben: Your cover story on Joe Biden’s odd campaign details many of his shortcomings — his unsteady debates, his serious fundraising struggles, his lack of unifying policy vision. But it also makes clear how personal and deep a connection his fans feel to him, especially those who have experienced personal tragedy, which the former vice-president is, sadly, well versed in.
Olivia: So we saw this month for the first time Warren eclipse Biden in the RCP average — albeit only for one day and only by 0.2 percent. But yeah, I think there’s a lot of denial about the reality of the Democratic electorate, which is more moderate and older than the loudest voices on Twitter. And those loud voices have extraordinary influence over our thinking in the media and over the tone of the coverage. And some of those voices are members of the media themselves.
Ben: There’s also a fairly widespread notion that if Biden had run four years ago, he would have had a good chance to win the primary and then would have wiped the floor with Trump. He is certainly showing his age more in several ways now, but, as you write, it’s not as if his previous presidential campaigns in 1988 and 2004 were great successes. There was a reason Obama preferred him not to run in 2016, after all.
Olivia: I wouldn’t say there are none. It’s not as though every single senior member of the Biden campaign anonymously spilled their guts to me But certainly, my reporting suggests that the prevailing attitude is what I wrote in the story. And of course, I don’t expect any Biden allies will be publicly confirming the negative aspects of my reporting.
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