Hosts Leon Neyfakh and Jay Smooth discuss deconstructing the Michael Jackson myth—and how that involves surprise guests like Stephen King and Doug E. Doug.
, which has covered major historical events like the AIDS crisis and the Bush vs. Gore election. The Michael Jackson phenomenon, Neyfakh argues, is another such culture-shifting story.
“He told me the subject would be Michael Jackson and I had a whole mix of feelings. Because that’s a fascinating topic, but a topic that’s still fraught and unsettled for me,” Smooth says. “I have so many feelings about Michael that I’m still trying to figure out what to do with, as someone who I loved really deeply. And that’s still inside me at the same time as I consider whether he may have done things that are unspeakable. I still, in 2023, am figuring out exactly where to place all of that.
“I’m always amazed at how much you can learn by talking to people who saw something happen directly in front of them but who haven’t necessarily been interviewed a million times. People who seem like peripheral characters, for lack of a better word,” Neyfakh says. “I’m attracted to those people who had a front row seat to history and who can tell us about some little corner of it.”
“We were all so amazed that before anyone had ever made any allegations against him, Michael wanted to make this video,” Neyfakh says of the never-released film. He adds: “A big surprise for me from making the show is that Michael himself didn’t really seem to think that you can or should separate him from his art. He made artThat gets to the age-old question of whether anyone can—or should—separate the art from the artist.
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