'The satisfaction is actually the loss of desire itself.'
This past May marked the opening of the “Appearance Stripped Bare: Desire and the Object in the Work of Marcel Duchamp and Jeff Koons,” a landmark exhibition at thein Mexico City. The show, which features an unprecedented number of works by each artist, takes a text by Duchamp on the subject of shop windows as its conceptual core, analyzing the desirous surface where objects are encased just beyond our reach.
GIONI: It’s a replica of a replica, in a sense. And of course all that is happening in the ’80s or ’90s, when there were also discussions around the idea of the simulacrum. Another very important element of the exhibition was this note that Duchamp writes in 1913, but releases much later, about this strange sexual experience of looking at objects behind a pane of glass in a shop window.
BETTRIDGE: In the past couple of decades, Duchamp has emerged as kind of the magnetic center of art history in the 20th century, but it wasn’t always like that. What do you think it says about our present that we have become so preoccupied with Duchamp?is very revelatory in how she looks at Duchamp in the context of early 20th century commodity culture: the explosion of the department store, and all that transformation, which seems prophetic now. Duchamp is the artist of choice, in a sense.
BETTRIDGE: What’s funny is that it almost feels like art took a while to catch up to what Duchamp was saying. Because throughout 60s and 70s conceptualism, you have this very purist, abstract, and anti-consumerist mode of art-making. Then with Koons and the Picture Generation, you see these questions that Duchamp—and, of course, Warhol—were addressing come up in a major way again.
GIONI: What I love about Koons’s reading of Duchamp is this idea of acceptance of the world as it is. I always thought that Duchamp’s work was the result of a strong act of volition. It’s like, “I’m such an artist that I can even tell you what art is.” And instead, in Koons’s reading, there is this more passive idea, which is almost zen, that through acceptance the world becomes richer.
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