Dan Lindsay and T.J. Martin, who helmed the Emmy-nominated HBO documentary, open up about finding the balance of having her retell her tale without dredging up the trauma: 'We were really conscious of not triggering her.'
Simon and Jonathan Chinn, who produced our film, were looking to make a deal with Tina to do a documentary. We were surprised when they approached us to do it, because we had some concerns about whether we were the right people to do it. As we dove into Tina’s story, we realized that there’s an incredible narrative journey that happens to involve one of the most iconic musical performers.T. J.
Absolutely. Her persona is so well respected and celebrated, and she means a lot of different things to a lot of people. We were figuring how we fit into this bigger picture of Tina’s story, and a lot of it came from sitting down with Tina herself. [Her relationship with Ike] can be really painful to talk about — the trauma comes back and manifests itself in nightmares. It’s like the abuse happened yesterday.
I’m an elder millennial, so I’ve only known Tina Turner as a solo artist. While I knew about her relationship with Ike, I was unaware how much work it took, after she left, to establish herself as a solo performer.T. J. and I are just at the tail end of Gen X — anyone older than us was like, “Oh, everybody knows that story.” And people younger than us said, “Oh, the woman with the big hair?” We had to figure out a way for the narrative to appeal to the uninitiated, too.
Can you tell me about finding the balance of having her retell the story without dredging up the trauma once again?Once we understood Tina’s relationship to her story, we wanted to reflect on how she lives with it.We were really conscious of not triggering her, of doing the exact thing that we’re [commenting on] in the film. We’re in a privileged position, to be third-party witnesses to somebody’s story.
As you say, we hold her in high esteem as a survivor, but do you get the sense that she would rather Ike be a footnote in her story?You can’t tell her story without talking about Ike … and people need to handle that with respect. Like, in the middle of an interview about [her role in], she was asked how she feels about Ike being arrested for cocaine possession. [We want the audience] not to freeze her in a moment in time.
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